In the final session of Revisited, the topic was “Solution: Who is Jesus?” A.S did presentation centred around C.S Lewis’ trilemma — Based on the two certain facts that Jesus was a real man and did die as a political criminal, Jesus cannot be a mere good man/teacher because of his audacious claims. Either he is a Liar, Madman or God.
The fourth historiographical perspective is then added to make it a Quadrilemma — a Legend constructed by followers after his death. And this is an idea I have been looking at, how are we sure that the Jesus of real life is the same as the one who has teachings recorded in the Bible? Some theologians claim that the story of the adulteress was a fabrication. What is to stop people from adding their own descriptions of Jesus? I think it is possible that we do not have a complete picture of Jesus — perhaps even a slightly distorted one.
Let’s examine the claims in brief and the counterclaims in not-so-brief. Most of this are from the presentation, usually two arguments were given per point, I just selected whichever I thought was stronger:
1. Liar? Most unlikely, given that he went through the torture of crucifixion. A supposed mere liar would cave in and simply concede unless he had a cause and motivation to suffer — which would mean serious delusion.
2. Madman? A.S claims that Jesus could not have been a madman because of his intellectual wit in dealing the pharisees and in the Sermon of the Mount. I think there’s room for doubt — since intellect and delusion are not mutually exclusive and there are probably multiple historical examples.
A valid counter-argument would be a mere Madman would not actually have been able to do whatever Jesus did. But for that, we have to examine those who recorded what he did — historiography (or heh, bibliography)
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3. Legend? According to A.S, this is unlikely on the grounds that the Teachings of Jesus were actually not the sort that would be popular with both the ruling romans as well as the common legalistic Jews.
I find this argument valid but not sufficiently compelling. 1. I would think that his teachings offered some form of hope to the outcasts of society (otherwise there will really be no appeal to anyone) 2. Even if some parts were authentically Jesus’, there could be parts added by others which aren’t — not so much teaching-wise, rather than miracle-wise.
From how I see it, to ascertain whether something is a fabrication or not, you need to examine the “fabricators” as well. This is where the Liar counter-argument applies to the disciples who supposedly saw the resurrected Jesus. Most ended up martyred for what they saw. And my central assumption is that if there is no real cause, you will not martyr yourself. In addition, it is highly unlikely that a whole bunch of disciples hallucinated the same thing.
But isn’t my assumption shakey — aren’t there many suicide bombers, am I saying that they have a real cause too? Not necessarily. These were not the deluded and impoverished minions with nothing to lose and only 72 virgins to gain, these were the supposed first hand witnesses/disciples/creators of the ‘Legend’. They endured the Roman torture with a strong cause. Even if we assumed that Jesus was a madman, surely not all his disciples were? In essence, Jesus’ witnessed act of resurrection is more significant than his claims alone.
I find this central argument the strongest: beyond the mere teachings of Jesus, the witnesses of resurrection martyred themselves. (In bate terms, this is a Hung Case though)
My ‘The Sunday Posts’ often point in a direction of rational criticism rather than evangelical direction, but in this quadrilemma, that leaves….
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Two additional thoughts:
1. I strongly disagree with militant Christian nuts who believe that non-Christians shouldn’t get to celebrate Christmas — on the grounds that strictly speaking the origins of Christmas is Pagan in nature. In fact, history would show that the Church at one point did try to ban Christmas because of its merry making. At the same time I disagree with militant Atheist nuts who think that it should be “seasons greetings” instead of “merry christmas” — since the festival has evolved to put on a secular face as well.
2. On the point about its secular face and the historical origins of Christmas, I think its merely a Capitalist Conspiracy to get people to buy things they otherwise can’t bear to buy. No better way to move people to buy things they otherwise would be unwilling to buy than to tell them its a sacrifice for someone they love — even if they might not reallyyy want it.
I suppose though — the physical gifts itself don’t matter, its the thought and meaning behind the giving that impresses matters. Heh.
Happy Capitalistmas. Ho ho, hos. (heh, I just asked Gremlin if she wants a guy wrapped up in a ribbon with something the size of Mistletoe or the size of Christmas Tree =D Sigh, I think i’ll just get her an Elf Suit instead)

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